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The Running for Real Podcast

May 13, 2022

If you’re a runner, Steve Magness’s upcoming book, Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of Real Toughness, will resonate with you. Actually, if you’re a human being, it will resonate with you. Society leads us to believe that toughness is an inherent quality that we either possess or lack, but his research shows that it is, in fact, something that we can develop. As Steve says, “You have the capacity, but like anything, you have to train that capacity.”

This episode covers topics that runners often wonder about. Steve talks about them in such a clear, comprehensive way that you’ll not only have your questions answered, but feel inspired to develop your own resilience in running and in life.

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Thank you to InsideTracker, UCAN, and Allbirds for sponsoring this episode.

Have you not been feeling yourself lately? Gone down a lot of avenues but haven’t really found clear solutions? That is where InsideTracker can come in for you.  I have trusted this company for years to show me where I may be lacking and if I need a few tweaks here and there. I count on InsideTracker to help me decipher the science behind it all.

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UCAN uses a one-of-a-kind carbohydrate to provide a steady release of glucose over several hours that’s easy on your stomach and doesn’t cause a sugar crash. It comes in powders, bars, and gels, and they actually taste good! Their gel, UCAN Edge, was voted by Runner’s World as one of the best foods to eat during a run. Tina has been a fan of UCAN for years and uses it exclusively for fueling when she’s training and racing.

Go here and use code TINAUCAN for 20% off your order!

Allbirds is all about doing things better, like collaborating with Adidas to create a performance running shoe, the FOOTPRINT.FUTURECRAFT, with only 2.94kg CO2 per pair.  Their products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes.

You can see their entire collection on their website.

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"Thank you" to Steve.  We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.