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The Running for Real Podcast

Aug 26, 2022

After being diagnosed with terminal cancer, Gil Winch decided that he wanted to run a half marathon and make the biggest social impact that he could. That was over 20 years ago. Today he equates running with “beating cancer and staying alive” and is the founder of  CY, a for-profit business that employs people with disabilities and other marginalized populations. He wrote his forthcoming book, “Winning with Underdogs,” to share what he’s learned about building a more inclusive workplace.

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Thank you to Allbirds, Marathon Training Academy, and the Running for Real training plans for sponsoring this episode. 

Allbirds’ products are made from natural and recycled materials, and best of all, they know who they are. They are confident in what they do, and are changing the entire running industry before our eyes. You can see their entire collection on their website.


Runners’ World says this about Marathon Training Academy:

“If you’re training for 26.2, running coach Angie Spencer and her husband, Trevor, have everything you need to reach the finish line. The duo provides plenty of training tips, interviews, and reviews of marathons from around the world. (Angie has run one in every state!) While they don’t always bring on guests, runners like Sara Hall, Dathan Ritzenhein, and even actor Sean Astin have all stopped by."

To find the podcast just type "marathon training" into Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will find them.


If you’ve decided it’s time to accomplish a new running goal, check out our 100% effort-based training plans. You'll run entirely by feel and if you've never done that before, don't worry, this plan is going to teach you how to trust your body to tell you what it's ready for. It will leave you confident, prepared, and in the best shape of your life. There’s a 5k/10k plan, a half marathon plan, a marathon plan, and a one mile/speed segment plan. 

You can find them all here on our website.


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"Thank you" to Gil.  We look forward to hearing your thoughts on the show.